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act u all Y ... it is for bidden to re act hear here
:: and Y ou do know W H Y
why is numerically 4 8 2 in bivid-decodex language :
so it is 14 equal to *:: or 1 purepose 4 priciples (a hand - ref V.van Gogh - the potato eaters)
the other hand can be another mysticall practice , dear KENneth ...
that is ::* the Other hand ...
that is part of the Other human in mutual conversation
so that can be: 4 Passages 1 People/Person (hmm, isnt that actually the same - inside/sight)
this written freely/drunk on november 21, 2024 / shadowww:
kin 16: Yellow Electric Warrior
I Activate in order to Question
Bonding Fearlessness
I seal the Output of Intelligence
With the Electric tone of Service
I am guided by the power of Universal Fire
S'ace VoTan
T here, Hear,
:{ hi II interhumanityTransiT-REspONdeArs ! how about the hologram in our DNA? }:
preparing a speaking about integral governance in a Human Emergence environment & project ...
(in europe/holland)
i am wondering the quadrant technique ...
as sort of doing the practise of un/de-mystifying themes in a quadrant (and a setting?) ...
i placed governance in the next quadrant:
dialogue - governance - politics - democracy
today in 2024 of course (see the rest of the development in this issue/topic)
i had it al wrong - simply
because i had to learn the wrong thing to see the even moore right:
governance - dialogue - politics - democracy
and then:
synchronizing is to with the next 2 quadrants ...
i - it - its - we
and
i - Self & Consciousness
it - Brain & Organism
its - Social System & environment
we - Culture & Worldview
:{ i - transforming }: => 5th or 0-phase of contemplation, synchronization, presence, being
it would help me it fellow integrales here would challenge those 3 parallel quadrant exercise ...
as a method to get the right position for "governance" in the integral way of speech & forces to understand.
btw ... oct 24 i'm presenting and initiating the dialogue here (4 weeks before an electionday)
lets become?
~~~ note after a 4 days lecture on SpiralDynamics*integral:
i - Self & Consciousness :: Rhythmic Brain = Heart H
it - Brain & Organism :: Logical Brain & DNA
its - Social System & environment :: Politics under 1Man1Vote
we - Culture & Worldview :: Dictionary & Media
~~~ the insight is a personal interpretation :: s'ace
2008 note: the false serie was taking the sensoric realm as prior to the telepathic one -
that was the trick if babel - now on the edge of becoming human(e) finally we democ'rize ... s'
(catalyzing agent)
"Through the 28::7 T-T cosmogenesis of time, merge your mind into the ever-evolving higher conciousness of time!
If there were not time, there would be no mind to become." - VV-Rinri-II
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| 09-29-2006, 4:03 PM |
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cahacker
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My quick thoughts:
dialogue - LL (we - it takes at least 2 to dialogue)
politics - UL (personal views and opinions), LL (shared views and opinions, shared political and cultural norms), LR (organizational aspects of politics, i.e., party infrastructure and rules) [with effects in UR]
governance and democracy - LR (norms and shared values), LR (rules and processes and institutions), UL and UR (the inside and outside of the individuals engaged in the institutions and with the institutions governing)
Governance and democracy are all quadrant phenomena.
One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. --Andre Gide Hope is as hollow as fear. --Lao-tzu
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| 10-01-2006, 4:01 AM |
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cosmogerminator
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thanks for your suggestions on a quick glimpse , anyhow ...
i add some thoughts to it ... marked by }{{
 cahacker:My quick thoughts:
dialogue - LL (we - it takes at least 2 to dialogue) }{{ i agree upon the thought on external dialogue that it takes at least 2 individuals to initiate and maintain a dialogue and sphere ...; }{{ i am aware of the fact that a dialogue supported by AQAL techniques or other ones applicable can be internal too. Is there a sense in the saying that a human exists out of 7 (or 9) energetic communication centres that are energetic parts of the human holon known as 1 individual of man? if so, it is a wider perspective on the 2 humans communicating in a mutual dialogue. Anyhow, the dialogue is maintained by at least 2 I' s ... so I - LL-quadrant seems to me the right Quadrant in the observation & investigation where governance, politics, democracy, dialogue (more entities needed?) seem potential precise enough "values" , terms of pronunciation & articulation.
}{{ the arguments given below i will comment on later ...
politics - UL (personal views and opinions), LL (shared views and opinions, shared political and cultural norms), LR (organizational aspects of politics, i.e., party infrastructure and rules) [with effects in UR]
governance and democracy - LR (norms and shared values), LR (rules and processes and institutions), UL and UR (the inside and outside of the individuals engaged in the institutions and with the institutions governing)
Governance and democracy are all quadrant phenomena.
Replying in a general way ...
i think governance is a thing that is practised on the Global or Planetary scale by www.simpol.org / bunzl.
i also think governance is a thing to be seeded in any living individual, especially in those individuals that seem to have lost this "governance-seed". if a question as " How to (re)seed Governence sense in each individual?" raises ... then i would promote the idea " Democracy can be the vehicle to re-seed" .
So, then ... what can be dramatically changed ... in order to re-set the core, the "human planetary core"?
CdG
"Through the 28::7 T-T cosmogenesis of time, merge your mind into the ever-evolving higher conciousness of time! If there were not time, there would be no mind to become." - VV-Rinri-II
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| 10-27-2006, 5:37 AM |
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cosmogerminator
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first i may have to apologize myself ...
(if needed for you?)
why? you might say : cosmo is talking to itself ...
well let me tell you cosmo is changed in the meantime ...
not totally of course but still changed referencing the other moment talking here ...
okay you might say cosmo kept his own cosmo label ... maybe to remind
you, other fellow, to moments we shared before (if ever a moment)
~~~ confident crystal clear ~~~
so, i had a performance with C H E participants ...
quantitively spoken we were with 22 human bodies.
in order to be with as many as possible human minds in our common &
mutual sphere i proposed (recommended by leida/leidraad) to center (1st
C of C Human Emergence) ourselves spherical related to the collective
intelligence play / set / ceremonical commitment.
we did this by performing the neureebah ...
which i have to communicate in poor words lacking a 2 minute video rehearsal clip.
I
invite all to stand up, centered hands up on the solar P spot radar loving the higher self ...
and follow the leader performer one time with open eyes ...
II
while producing the "NEU" sound, pivot hands downwards then till the
position below the basic chakra height next to the thighs, strentching
the fingers forward ...
III
then after a moment of silence continue moving while producing the
"REE" sound, same way back as forward before, and from the radar love
position transmove upward till the position above the crown chakra
hands up in the air, stretching the fingers backward ... (kind of
abundance position)
IV
then after a moment of silence continue moving while sounding "BAH",
bowing the hands as far as you can from your body in a smooth way as if
making the phi-bow towards a position where both hands are under the
HeartH.
V
some moments of understanding "the spiritual centered moment"
... we rehearsed this 2 times, total of 3 neureebah cycles.
well ...
what has this to do with integral government ...
i propose i give that answer to the next cosmo ...
in the meantime enjoying your respondings over (T)here ...
neureebah
s'ace
to:D i wanna honor my passed away friend & inspirator eckart wintZen ...
(hitchhiking this instrumentality)
bytheWay i am working on S'aceology ;-) HeiligKreutzTal is the 1st TryOut;
it might be the most convenient way to travel by skynoospAce ...
hang-on&off
"Through the 28::7 T-T cosmogenesis of time, merge your mind into the ever-evolving higher conciousness of time!
If there were not time, there would be no mind to become." - VV-Rinri-II
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| 11-18-2006, 11:29 AM |
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cosmogerminator
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well, we're doing okay over here,
the silence of the lambs always seems to psi stormY wheather ;-)
i propose we also try not to count those lambs ... i think you know whY ...
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i saw i, my todayself seed12, need to seed a mutation on the initiating contribution:
synchronizing
dialogue - governance - politics - democracy to
- i - Self & Consciousness
- it - Brain & Organism
- its - Social System & environment
- we - Culture & Worldview
WHY?
well consider another proposition over here:
- i :: Self & Consciousness :: Governance
- it :: Brain & Organism :: Dialogue
- its :: Social System & environment :: Politics
- we :: Culture & Worldview :: Democracy
Then, what happened?
i consider the verb dialogue has to do with both the DNA body and the dynamical, mind referencing exterior Body ...
and, on the other side ... i can now consider what i do when i am in a 1 man 1 vote paradigm ...
how clever of those ones who designed this in their purpose in their time of co-creating ideals.
and then we can go to a next step of mindscraping ...
some other time ...
psi-ing the illusion to break open in full light of pivotal times
s'ace
"Through the 28::7 T-T cosmogenesis of time, merge your mind into the ever-evolving higher conciousness of time! If there were not time, there would be no mind to become." - VV-Rinri-II
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| 12-22-2006, 9:18 AM |
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This week we in holland were informed by the Queen assigning mr. Herman Wijffels to "Informateur", Information Manager catalysing the 3 political parties CDA (biggest), PvdA (social) and CU (Christian Union) ... to a new coalition form in 6 weeks.
Not especially a subject to this forum if it were not for the reason that mr. Wijffels lent his name the the Center for Human Emergence Center that facilitates a american " names" as Wilber, Bloom, Beck, Cohen etc. cooperation in getting Integral , Enlightened, Spiraling and Close to the Edge of becoming on the governmental core ...
A member of our integral politics group visionalised that (now Worldbank professional) as an ideal priminister taking over the scepter from mr. Balkenende who is now representing cabinet and the biggest (conservative!) party. Wijffels is a party member of the same party.
Major of Amsterdam Cohen should vice the socials, according that member (who for the record manages a new movement for Spiritual Society Bindings).
Some challenge may be given to the "former" prime when he takes the offer of becoming the new ministre of Inner Affairs.
Main Challenge seems to be the wish of W. expressed in camps of radical change : "REE for a Better World, where people relate to one another and learn the value of appreciation "
(shortly said by understanding Herman)
Here we may visionalize the stage where the changes become instrumentalized (ain't we?):
:{let me postpone my contribution here = being patient = till the day of 3 kings, or rather wise ones arrives; you ? feel free to contribute some tips for the country international seen as guiding new world changes in the political, or rather integral governance, core}:
update feb,02
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"the day of 3 kings" seems to work out as 3 partyleaders sharing the "DEALL"
in holland the 19th millenium tinkers take over radiating SAFETY DRIVEN
Here analysis on the shift of the peoples intelligent core to Synthesis Oriented :: Holistic Organism can be Fired from the implementation prepared ...
Can Representative Democracy shift towards a more Morphic System which implicitly enroles generation driven guardianship for all involved?
' Morphic System? - a design that breathes the art of democracy within the living of a democratic system as meant to be (skipping the "ancient pilot system driven on 1M1V"
=> generation binding s'ilence
Well, let us see for the safety driven concept as a gathering jump line for the unavoidable jump towards Process Oriented and Systemic Flow (Control All to read :)
"Through the 28::7 T-T cosmogenesis of time, merge your mind into the ever-evolving higher conciousness of time!
If there were not time, there would be no mind to become." - VV-Rinri-II
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| 12-23-2006, 9:12 AM |
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let me first introduce readers in this context of integral governance to an article and a new design for integrated governance esteem. The article is in a conceptual phase till half januari.
NEW :: in the article the symbol :: is pioneered (as far as i know) as an initiated universal symbol for AQAL "mature language" sphere (strifed for & agreed upon while acting authentical).
now, let me invest some time with cahacker's reply (investing for clarity in the context and revelation of wilbers quadrants in our time enlightening conscious levels rapidly)
Cahacker on dialogue:
LL (we - it takes at least 2 to dialogue) ?
UR - upper right - IT, is however the quadrant where dialogue as a conversation particle rises for all individuals :: remember dialogue reverberates from the hollow barrel that the body reminds the individual in the educational modus of life, binding the exterior to the individual, the higher self mind sphere, UL - I.
Of course a agree on cahackers idea that at least 2 individuals are needed for a tango ; but can we then say this is the LL lower left WE? I think that a dialogue of two persons in the developmental modus is against the will of WE. Isn' t being in a dialogue at first stake queesting and doubting the conventional WE?
Cahacker on politics:
UL (personal views and opinions),
LL (shared views and
opinions, shared political and cultural norms),
LR (organizational
aspects of politics, i.e., party infrastructure and rules) [with
effects in UR]
Considering the UL / I-quadrant - personal views and opinions are mostly build on projections and I, s' ace, prefer to simplify the political core to the LR, the ITS world quadrant. Individual projections are mostly instrumentalized through the mediated projections, they are never the free human, the I origin of specie perspective.
Considering LL / We-quadrant - shared views and
opinions, shared political and cultural norms under the label Politics, I doubt this for real. Maybe here the American way of life and world view differs from the European? Or from the Attached History Chronicle aware of?
Considering LR / ITS-quadrant - organizational
aspects of politics, i.e., party infrastructure and rules [with
effects in UR] - I agree on the organisational aspects that are given Form in our world of "make believe", business. I also can see the party infrastructure as a contribution of cahacker, althought i morely see the influence of real life chaos accidently given form by the party representatives at a given time dealing with ITS-partner in business emerging on globalization. Those accidents led to a world that is nowadays paralysed by some individuals iconized by some doubtable institutions (where some individuals dominated on historic grounds).
Cahacker notifies Governance and Democracy are all quadrant phenomena.
I have to consider this ... given my clearance here on politics.
Is there anyone who can sense the key-point where Cahacker and me, s' ace, may gain on mutual understanding using the instruments of Ken?
Let me close this part by quoting Cahackers:
governance and democracy
- LR (norms and shared values),
- LR (rules and
processes and institutions),
- UL and UR (the inside and outside of the
individuals engaged in the institutions and with the institutions
governing)
I'll be back on this passing some christmas days ...
"Through the 28::7 T-T cosmogenesis of time, merge your mind into the ever-evolving higher conciousness of time!
If there were not time, there would be no mind to become." - VV-Rinri-II
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| 01-22-2007, 10:20 AM |
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so, by now the level of getting out of the metatron can be imaginated for those ones who read the morphogenesis codes ...
which means ...
we accept those evolutionary steps ...
The Mayan Calendar Comes North 01 &
02 - Ian Xel Lungold
cellular ... family...tribal...nation...power...ethical...universal
know the flower of life simplification ...
and are getting on those morphogenetic fields theories ...
that are built in our societies ...
when we are on a schedule to dissolve our belief out of the "one p. one
v." (formerly "one man one vote"), nicknamed "the winner takes it all" (if he keeps on ignoring
anybody else especially those who were relying on some faith in them
"elitees") ... to another grid.
and i think ken et all helped me a lot in seeing more and more what the
vision of generations as grid scales could be in a mass & complex
decision making process as nation/statewide election ...
and how the old system kept the media makers in a sort of a script that
could comfortize their creative job and thereby optimize the dull and
stressy talking about who is getting the black adder ...
What the hell am i talking about ...
well there is this board of world citizens , who really try to connect the building of a Global Justice and Constitution Institution ...
but, hey, ho, did we shift by then ...
of do we postpone the shift being busy to reschedule from one misery to another one ...
i think we should co-operate right now ...
s'ace
"Through the 28::7 T-T cosmogenesis of time, merge your mind into the ever-evolving higher conciousness of time! If there were not time, there would be no mind to become." - VV-Rinri-II
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